luciazephyr | (no subject)

It makes you skittish?
I think he means it as a compliment... a little wink to us here in the tubez.

*looks around nervously*
right?

It makes me very skittish. He's a very nice, understanding man, but I'm so terrified that he looks down on it. It's like how is, say, Joss Whedon said he didn't like fanfic of his work, I wouldn't be able to write or read it.

It's worse with RPS. It may not be rational, but I freeze up at the idea of one of them reading my work.

Oh, I think he means well! If he was really bothered by it, we'd have all gotten nasty letters from some team of lawyers by now.

Agreed.
We'd all be subpoenaed or sued or something if that was the case.

I doubt that they read stuff, I just think they know it exists and that fact amuses them.

Or they could all be leading secret double lives and read the comms secretly to get seduction ideas. ;)

They do know it exists, and it doesn't seem to bother them at all. I've read a couple accounts of people attending TDS tapings (this was before there was a Colbert Report, and in the TDS comm here on LJ, you know, the one that used to be so active) who asked questions about RPS in the Q&A part before the show. Jon seemed more amused by it than anything else, according to those posters.

It still horrifies me that anyone would ask them about the RPS, though. That crosses way too many lines for me. I agree, though - of course they know about it. Remember the Tek Jansen fic that Stephen supposedly wrote? And let's not forget the CC Insider blog post or the Jossip thing from years ago (was it Jossip or another similar site?). They know. But there's no reason for them to acknowledge it, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

I do, however, have a pet theory that Amy Sedaris sometimes hunts down punditry fic and torments Stephen and/or Paul with it. Because I think it would be funny.

Meh, I can see someone being curious and asking about it...but it's all part of the whole "issue" of the forbidden fruit that is RPS, comes with the territory.

Oh, I can SO see Amy doing that!

See, I think it's beyond bad taste to approach someone and say "Hey, so what do you think about all the stories people write about you having gay sex with your friends and/or employees?" Not to mention, nothing productive's going to come of it. The subject will, in all likelihood, not say "Oh, man! I love that shit! I wish there were more!" (Pipe down, Sir Ian McKellen.) The writers will, in all likelihood (and judging by many of the responses in the past), not say "Wow! Glad to know he knows we write slash about us!" It just seems like a bad idea all around, is all.

I think Amy specifically pick out the stories she knows will squick Stephen the most.

They definitely know it's around, and, occasionally, actively seek it out. I know a lot of people through my program who are/were interns at both TDS and TCR, and have gotten several stories about RPS being printed and read aloud at staff parties, and the fridge in a staff lounge bearing magneted-up print-outs of slashy fan art. In short: they know we're here, and they love to mock us.

I think it's great that they can laugh at it, but god, I don't want to know it's me they're laughing at. That's why I lock everything fic-related. What a nightmare.

I certainly wouldn't ask the subjects of my fic their opinions of it, and I know that RPS gets a lot of grief from those in the fandom who don't read/write/like it (as do fangirls in general), and I believe some of the inquiries were from these types. It was more of an "OMG please tell us how godawful you think this activity is" thing from those, I believe.

I recall some discussions in the TDS RPS comm where someone wanted to contact Our Heroes and request a makeout session. Creepy, incredibly so, and as I recall, the OP wound up getting banned for some drama & trauma. =/

In short: they know we're here, and they love to mock us. I love this idea, for some reason...tit for tat, perhaps!

Oh yeah, I flocked all my fic (back when I wrote fic), but I always kept the idea in my mind that someday it might very well be found by "outsiders" (including the subjects) and thoroughly mocked! Kept me very "tongue in cheek", I'd say!

Good lord, warn me before using the cutest snail macro ever!

*coughs*

Anyway, yes. I do agree that most of the people out there are probably asking in the "So...about this travesty..." (Do I need a disclaimer here? Just in case - no, I don't think RPS is a travesty. For god's sake, I write it. I'm...writing it right now, actually.) But I seem to recall one of the instances being someone actually asking from a positive viewpoint. This whole thing sort of reminds me of turning on the light and watching the roaches skitter off into the corners.

Man, oh, man, I forgot about the makeout session thing! Wasn't there a thing about one of the tel-a-thons too, where everyone was supposed to donate a lot of money to see them make out? Good lord.

I has a stik!!! Feel free to yoink the icon, I have no idea who made it, tho.

This whole thing sort of reminds me of turning on the light and watching the roaches skitter off into the corners. LOL, a very fitting metaphor, I think!!!

Goodness, a telethon...I don't recall that one, but I tried to stay out of most of the drama in there. I was just in it for the pron!

Won't somebody please think of the pr0n?

Now that's a fitting subject for a telethon. "The Punditry Fandom Porn-a-thon. Give what you can. Every donation counts."

I'm almost afraid to ask how that specific telethon would work...and yet, I am strangely intrigued... =D

(Incidentally, I found the TDS comm [and LJ] through the online mocking of someone's fic on Wonkette!)

I know. I keep...thinking about it (and how you could make a comm), and then shoving the thoughts away. (But come one! It's porn! We all love porn!)

And see - there! Never let it be said that wank doesn't bring folks together!

Have you ever read any of the fic on ColbertNation?

There's this monumentally disturbing and hilarious RPS with Stephen and Papa Bear.

After the Night of Too Many Stars in 2006, somebody suggested it.

Here's the context: one of the sketches during that telethon involved an eccentric millionaire offering large amounts of money for two (other) men to make out. (And they did -- before they knew that it was a condition for the money.)

So the idea didn't come out of the blue. It came from the telethon itself, in which it was packaged as good-natured comedy.

When he mentions it in an approving sense, shouldn't that make you have less trouble with it?

The major distinction between RPF and other fanfiction is that, with RPF, there's the possibility that it'll be found by the people you're writing about. And the major moral qualm is that the people might not like to be written about in that way. (At least, as I understand it. Is there some other element that makes you uncomfortable?)

So if the people mention it with amusement, or at least nonjudgmentally, isn't that better than having them not mention it at all (in which case they could be secretly horrified for all you know)?

It in fact does not help that he mentioned it in a benevolent manner. What makes me uncomfortable is just that I am using real people and that makes me twitch. That they are aware of my using them for my own sick amusement is enough. I'd prefer to never know.