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Lucy ([personal profile] luciazephyr) wrote2010-06-28 02:09 pm
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rant rant rant RAAAAAAAAAANT

So sometimes at work, if you're working drive-thru, the local churches will have you pamphlets along with their money. It's polite to take them, I suppose.

I got another today. A few co-workers giggled over the typoes in it, then I tried to hand it off to someone, mostly 'cause God pamphlets make me giggle inappropriately and I don't like looking like an asshole to the people around me.

So... let's call her S. S comes up to me and looks at it and says I should save it for someone who needs saving. I, assuming she's joking (because, well, look who she's saying it to), sarcastically say, "What, like me?" "No, for someone without faith."

Suddenly things are less funny.

I repeat myself, hoping she'll catch the hint, "What, like me?" And she gives me THAT LOOK. Atheists know what I'm talking about, the one that's half surprise (ohemgee, non-Christians exist?!) and half pity, like we're some kind of idiot child that is so misguided and foolish.

"So are you an... agnostic?"
"No, I'm an atheist. That's why I was trying to hand off the paper to someone else."
"Oh. Well, I don't need it. I have God in my life. I'll pray for your immortal soul."

Dead serious. Fuck, I hate it when Christians do that. Especially since it hasn't happened to me in a long while so I've been getting along well with the religious fuzzywuzzies (to co-otp a Joss term). But I hate hate hate hate hate when they do that.

Listen. I do not need anyone to pray for my immortal soul. Honestly. I am not a bad person, really. If there is a God, he doesn't have any serious reasons to send me to Hell.

And here's the kicker. Here's the thing I think most of these "I'll pray for you" folk don't understand.

If God is willing to send a decent person to Hell because they don't believe in him, I don't want to go to Heaven anyway.

Let's say tomorrow God shows up on a TV call-in show. I will call and ask him where Douglas Adams ended up. If he says Hell, then I'm going to forget his existence and go about my life as if nothing changed. Because Douglas tried to be a good man. He was funny and insightful and climbed a mountain wearing a ridiculous rhino costume to raise money for charity. If he got sent to Hell, it's only because God is an egotistical fuck who can't handle people being skeptical.

So Yeah. To sum up this rant: If you pray to Jesus for my immortal soul, I'm gonna pray to the FSM that you open your fucking eyes and stop being a condescending twatwaffle.

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-Lucy

[identity profile] moonlitsiren.livejournal.com 2010-06-28 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps she really does care about your well being and praying is her way of wishing you well in the future. Then again, she might want you to burn, I personally don't know.

What I'm trying to get across is that it's about the individual and not the institution. Some lady insulted you, not Christianity. It's a school of thought, a philosophy, and a belief system. It's the people that take it and decide what to do with it.

As far as those people who choose to belittle you and teach you what they deem to be the proper way, I can only offer the time honored "Cool story, bro" approach. You're right, you do deserve respect, but by becoming upset, you're only hurting yourself.
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[personal profile] thene 2010-06-28 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
A coworker who I really like once asked if she could pray for me - I was about to go away for a week or so and she wanted to pray for me to have a safe journey. I said yes. Because a) it wasn't about something alien to my beliefs - a safe trip is a safe trip - and b) she'd asked and not just assumed it would be okay, even though she didn't really know anything of my religious beliefs.

That was about not an institution or an individual, but about friendship between equals. However, I HAVE had rude strangers hassling me with their religion, and it's clear that their religion is the reason they feel entitled to do this. Some sects of Christianity encourage preaching at strangers and praying in their general direction as some kind of 'witnessing' or 'spreading the good news'. All Christian groups encourage conversion, and promote the idea that membership of their sect is normative. I think that nonchristians have every right to dislike these aspects of American Christianity.

Also no, being pissed off because someone was disrespectful towards your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is not 'only hurting yourself'. It is okay to express negative feelings towards people who fail to respect you, and it causes less hurt to oneself than suppressing your reactions in the name of avoiding disruption.

[identity profile] lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com 2010-06-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you.