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Bush dragged Iran and Syria into it. I was actually with him until he said that.

No. Just no.

I love Obama right now for being so adamant for opposing the surge. I'm pissed at Tony Snow for saying that even if Congress wanted to stop it, the President can do as he wishes. Um, WTF.

The speech itself was alternately making me nod along and making me scream. This is not going to work.

*frets*

-Luce

ETA: Anderson says we've spent 357 billion dollars on the Iraq war. Jesus fucking Christ. 6 million teachers, 700 elementary schools per state, free gasoline for a year for all Americans. *sigh*

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Date: 2007-01-11 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com
I agree blowing up anyone that supports an ideal that says we should all become Muslim or die.

And techincally, the only way Congress would stop Bush is to out vote him. But he can pass off whatever he wants from them. Moving up the national wage is NOT win

357b is nothing since every other damn country in the world is in debt.

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Date: 2007-01-11 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com
Bombing is about the worst answer to the problem.

They could impeach his ass. And Cheney's. I'd like to say 'President Pelosi'.

Um... so because everyone else is in debt, we should keep wasting money and lives? WTF?

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Date: 2007-01-11 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hobbit-hunter.livejournal.com
What you fail to realise is that you cannot sit down and talk with these people. These people want you to be Muslim, or die. There's no negociating unless you want to be Muslim, and personally I enjoy being able to chose whom I worship - not being held at gun point. So yes, blow them to pieces before they blow you up.

And impeaching doesnt do anything. All it does is hold a charge, it doesn't kick them out of office. All they would do is have a court. About what? Starting a War? He didn't start it, the Terrorists did back in the 1990s when they bombed federal buildings of ours in friendly territory. It just took two buildings coming down to smack America into realizing it.

It's not wasting money or lives. You're giving the Iraqi's a chance at something they could only dream about. To live without fear. Of course you still have the insurgeons, but I know for a fact that people are grateful we came there and freed them.

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Date: 2007-01-11 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com
What you fail to realize is that I want us the fuck out of there. I don't want to sit and talk- that option has been shot to hell years ago. And they don't want to blow me up- they want to blow each other up.

If the terrorists started it, we'd have been in Iran and not Iraq. Slight typo there. And personally, I'd take him down for illegal wire tapping, war crimes, and destroying the writ of Habeas Corpus.

It is wasting lives and money of our people. If you say Syria or Afghanistan or Iran, I'm with you, but Iraq? Iraq does not affect the US. We've destabilized the government because we side-stepped the UN and decided we were above the rest of the world and took it onto ourselves to kill our children to police countries who have oilthat we don't agree with.

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Date: 2007-01-11 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver11016.livejournal.com
I saw on the ABC news website last night that the troop surge has already started.

I saw said report about two hours after the speech broadcast ended.

If I hadn't been so tired I might have been more outraged. Instead I was just kinda drained and sad.

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Date: 2007-01-11 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com
*hugs you* Actually, the initial reports of the 9K troop surge broke around 3:30 PM (my time. I don't know what time for you). I was definately pissed and yelling at the telly.

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Date: 2007-01-12 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silver11016.livejournal.com
Last night I heard it would be 21,000. This morning I heard 92,000. What's the actual number right now?

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Date: 2007-01-12 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com
The mini-surge the President authorized before even giving his speech was 9K. The total amount will be just over 20K.

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