oh, get the fuck out

[luciazephyr]

Classmate: So, you state "we as adults should be allowed to create and read any ‘obscene’ material we deem fit", where do we draw the line? And, in whose opinion is it "fit"? What if my idea of "fit" is considered child pornography? Or what if it is domination? I know that there are currently laws that forbid those types of actions - which are illegal. But if these things aren't considered obscene because we can choose whether or not to view them, then it is a slippery slope to legalizing them.

Lucy: First off, as someone who has a lot of friends who are into D/s in the bedroom, please tread lightly when using "child pornography" and "dominance" in the same example. This is a basic idea of consent. Children cannot consent in any meaningful way to sexual conduct. Adults, however, can, and should feel free to have as much fun as they want with another consenting adult. These two ideas aren't even remotely related and a lot of people would be insulted to see them grouped together.

Classmate: Sorry to offend, but I grouped them like that because - like it or not - they are both considered to be what is on the outer fringes of acceptable or deviant sexual behavior. Whether there are people who are interested in this or not does not make it morally or popularly acceptable. There are many things that fall into that category and those are just two that happened to pop into my head as I was reading over her post. I could have easily added any other.

Lucy: I suggest you do some reading on the BDSM and D/s communities. You are very misinformed. There is nothing morally wrong with these practices and "popularly acceptable" has nothing to do with it. These acts don't hurt anyone and should never be considered remotely equivalent to child pornography. This is a basic matter of consent. Please, please educate yourself. Attitudes like yours are why people who don't fit into a neat little heteronormative mold feel so threatened in America today.

Comments

[samjohnsson]

Wow. If it were easier, love, I'd tell you to find another school. Tell me this isn't the same class?

[luciazephyr]

No, thank god. It's my media class, which I'm just finishing and I really enjoyed. Except this person.

[forestgreen]

Wow! The things you have to put up with. Here is hoping that they follow your advise and educate themselves.

[thene]

Wow, if it's okay to condemn 'deviancy' without defining it, why do gay people have rights, again?

I think this person needs introducing to the concept of moral philosophy.

[sarken]

*head desk*

[snazzy]

/delurking out of anger

Gods, some people are so ignorant. That's nearly as bad as equating "gay" with "bestiality."

You might point out that the top 2 songs in the top 40 are "S&M" by Rihanna and that weird dubcon alien fantasy with Katy Perry. What's not accepted, at least superficially, by popular culture?