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So, I'm re-watching some of SGA in prep for the new season, and The McKay Thing in The Long Goodbye has got me wondering.
Okay, so. If the TPTB are smart (and we know they can be), they'll use this. This? Is the foundation for a Rodney vs. Atlantis plotline and that would seriously rock the casbah. I can tell you right now that it would be my favorite episode. One man- one supergenius- against Lizzie, John, Radek, and his own team. 'Cause, goddamn, if not an episode, it should at least be a fanfic. Why hasn't it been done yet?
And I want to be Hewlett play the bad guy in an episode. 'Cause he would be amazing. Rodney's smug superiority plus "you are all at my mercy"? v. good. And he'd justify it. Like, he'd find out how to make the city fly and Lizzie would tell him no, so he'd take matters into his own hands. Hell, use a deus ex machina and have Rodney hit with an alien drug that lowers his inhibition and common sense. Then John would have to get to him ASAP to inject him with a Beckett-made antidote to get our Rodney back.
It'd be the best episode ever. Hell, make it a mid-season two-parter! Part one is Rodney going crazy from Alien Drugs and taking over, part two is John trying his damnest to save hisboyfriend.
Anyone who goes to a con should ask about it at a panel if Gero or Cooper or another one of the writers is there. Recite the line about memorizing codes and ask if that'll ever come up again or if we'll get a "Rodney vs. Atlantis" episode.
I love my men smart, sexy, and slightly mad.
So, tell me: how would you do a badguy!Rodney episode? Are there any other episode ideas you'd like to see/write?
-Luce
Caldwell: Can you hack it somehow, override her code?
Rodney: You do know who you're talking to?
Caldwell: So that's a yes?
Rodney: I'm just saying, if anybody can, I can. I helped design the system.
Caldwell: Then do it, please.
Rodney: Alright, but I'm using my access code.
Caldwell: Why, 'cause still don't trust me?
Rodney: No, because it's a sixteen digit alphanumeric code I will have to enter God knows how many times and I haven't gotten around to memorizing yours yet.
Okay, so. If the TPTB are smart (and we know they can be), they'll use this. This? Is the foundation for a Rodney vs. Atlantis plotline and that would seriously rock the casbah. I can tell you right now that it would be my favorite episode. One man- one supergenius- against Lizzie, John, Radek, and his own team. 'Cause, goddamn, if not an episode, it should at least be a fanfic. Why hasn't it been done yet?
And I want to be Hewlett play the bad guy in an episode. 'Cause he would be amazing. Rodney's smug superiority plus "you are all at my mercy"? v. good. And he'd justify it. Like, he'd find out how to make the city fly and Lizzie would tell him no, so he'd take matters into his own hands. Hell, use a deus ex machina and have Rodney hit with an alien drug that lowers his inhibition and common sense. Then John would have to get to him ASAP to inject him with a Beckett-made antidote to get our Rodney back.
It'd be the best episode ever. Hell, make it a mid-season two-parter! Part one is Rodney going crazy from Alien Drugs and taking over, part two is John trying his damnest to save his
Anyone who goes to a con should ask about it at a panel if Gero or Cooper or another one of the writers is there. Recite the line about memorizing codes and ask if that'll ever come up again or if we'll get a "Rodney vs. Atlantis" episode.
I love my men smart, sexy, and slightly mad.
So, tell me: how would you do a badguy!Rodney episode? Are there any other episode ideas you'd like to see/write?
-Luce
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:17 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-14 07:21 pm (UTC)Yesh.
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:25 pm (UTC). . . as your icon would suggest.
I'm not a huge SG-1 fan, but I LOVE the episode where a million teams show up and one of them is EBIL. The room full of Sam Carters was classic.
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:27 pm (UTC)I hate Sam on principle and I still loved that episode. I was waiting for SG-15 to show up though. *sad* That woulda been hilarious.
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:29 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-14 07:33 pm (UTC)But, yes. It'd shake up Rodney's relationships quite effectively. And it'd make the less-enlightened fans realize the power this one man has.
And clearance? Phuft. Rodney needs no clearance. If he has command codes memorized and can still override them if need be, no one can stop him.
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:33 pm (UTC)So, say, if Rodney activates some Ancient version of Zod, and then has to run about like a maniac trying to get him... some McGuffin, or he'll blow up the city. I'd like Rodney stuck trying to lie and pretend to me a monomaniacal despot, when he can't fess up what he's really up to!
I'm sure there's a sex-with-Sheppard interlude in there somewhere too. MMyeah
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Date: 2006-06-14 07:36 pm (UTC)And John would so catch onto the whole 'Rodney's not actually evil' thing and he'd try to get the truth from Rodney and they'd end up having sex. Yes.
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Date: 2006-06-14 09:44 pm (UTC)*shoves bunny at you*
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Date: 2006-06-14 09:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-14 07:45 pm (UTC)*sighs* I hope your post encourages someone to write some!
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Anything else is too much Data and Lore.......
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Date: 2006-06-14 08:07 pm (UTC)PPs Your banner is gorgeous!
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Date: 2006-06-14 08:09 pm (UTC)Hi, new friend! *waves*
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Date: 2006-06-15 03:00 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-14 11:51 pm (UTC)And Rodney has been through so much with the team, that I can't really see him turning against them entirely - so I would prefer a "Rodney appears to be evil but isn't really" episode - Or I really like the idea of an evil Rodney from an alternate reality...
There was a really great fic a while ago where Rodney and Chuck (the cute Canadian control room guy) were secretly spies for the Canadian government --- It was great! There should definitely be more evil Rodney fic! :)
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Date: 2006-06-15 03:47 am (UTC)Oh god, "The Universe is Not Enough", right? Awesome ficlet.
I hoping my suggestion to the Flashfic comm for a 'dark side' challenge comes through. Fingers crossed, eh?
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Date: 2006-06-15 08:44 am (UTC)And yes, thats the fic I was talking about. I loved it! :)
It'll be great if
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Date: 2006-06-16 01:04 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-16 01:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-15 04:52 am (UTC)Hah, actually I've been daydreaming this little story in my head for a while now. A la the tradition of evil universe trek episodes, evil Rodney and his black leather-clad sidekick duo of Ronon and Teyla (turned evil in their parallel universe after Sheppard dies in some heroic fuckup, leaving Elizabeth et al to try more and more desperate measures against the Wraith, until they lead a coup against her fumbling diplomatic decisions) pop through the gate and wreak havoc on Atlantis. They want Rodney and something from Atlantis (haven't figured that one out yet). One scene has all the main characters in the control room, megolomaniac Rodney (in black t-shirt) grandstanding about his great plan. Radek smartmouths something, Rodney goes on about his incompetence and how his Radek's learned his lesson about going against Rodney. Evil Rodney casually shoots (kills) Radek, as he can't do it in his universe for some reason (but that's okay, because he tosses his Radek through the gate after they kidnap regular Rodney, so now we have a mentally fucked up alterna-Radek to play with). Then of course there's the requisite scene where Rodney gets Sheppard alone, ties him up, and runs his gun barrel along John's jaw, explaining how their Sheppard left them to fuck everything up. The some stuf happens (this isn't fleshed out as I get distracted by the gun scene). Somehow our John and alterna-Radek manage to go to the evil universe to get (starved, abused) Rodney back, but not before getting a truly chilling glimpse into a universe that could so easily happen back home. And we get lots of mentions of how people flinch away from regular Rodney once he's up and about again, though he didn't do anything wrong, everyone now knows he has it in him, but he remembers all their evil versions and doesn't understand how they can be blind to their own potential evil. The End.
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Date: 2006-06-15 05:02 am (UTC)YOU KILLED RADEK! *cries*
But seriously... find a beta, write that story. Please.
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Date: 2006-06-15 05:16 am (UTC)But alterna-Radek's had enough of this suspicion, these fragile scientists jumping at the shadow of a truly innocent man, one who now knows his most damned potential and will make sure he never reaches that point. So Radek quickly (perhaps not quietly, because alterna-Radek's learned to browbeat minions from the best of them) brings the distrusting scientists in line...
...And I'm spent. This is fun, but oh god, sitting down and actually attempting to write it freaks me out.
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Date: 2006-06-15 05:27 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2006-06-15 10:43 am (UTC)I could go with him being invaded by an alien entity like a Goa'uld or say someone from Progeny. Mind you drug dependence could be another way to go. The Hive episode could have easily turned out dark and agressive. And maybe it's legacy still could explored in a future episode.
In all seriousness one person having all that knowledge can't be a good thing - look at RepliCarter.
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Date: 2006-06-16 01:54 am (UTC)Which also makes me think it would be cool to have an everyone vs. John episode...like everyone else is affected by something and John is just a bit too Ancient to be controlled or whatever and he has to save everyone (also big cliche).
(though, what I've always wanted was Atlantis vs. Earth. Or at least SG-1 vs. SA 1, and for it to be in SGA, so they win ^.^)
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Date: 2006-06-16 03:20 am (UTC)Earth vs. Pegasus would so win. And we could use it as a way to cut off Atlantis from Earth again, which is good.
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Date: 2006-06-16 04:38 am (UTC)I even have imagined scenerios for the Atlantis vs. Earth. (Begin Babble: Like, they each, separately, find out there's a store of ZPMs somewhere, and both go after them and meet on that planet. Earth would need them, of course, for whatever shit they got themselves into THIS time and Atlantis would need them because of whatever (reallygoodMcKayapproved!)reason they need them (perhaps Atlantis needs to leave the planet and go somewhere else or something). Whatever it is, it would be dreadfully important. So they end up at odds with each other, and McKay manages to trick Sam somehow, and Atlantis makes off with the ZPMs, thus saving the Pegasus Galaxy, but, whoops, making enemies of the Earth (and, man, imagine the allies one could have if they WEREN'T aligned with Earth...).)
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Date: 2006-06-16 04:56 am (UTC)That could work. Maybe as a season finale. Here's to hoping Martin Gero is connected to the hive mind of fandom and hears that.
*really just wants Rodney > Sam*
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Date: 2006-06-16 05:09 am (UTC)The problem with it, of course, is who's in control. We as the SGA fans want Rodney and co. to be the better group, but if it's something that's not just in SGA, but is a crossover that has episodes in both series, then I don't think there's a big chance of Atlantis coming out as the definitive better group....
They say they're going to show more about John's past and I'm really hoping that it's still very vague, because my desire for the char is that there's some sort of Ancient-related "plot" around him. Like, he's the reincarnation of an Ancient, or he's part of an Ancient eugenics program, or something like that. I was so excited because in the book "Reliquary" they have a lot of little details involving just how Ancient John is. Well, in both of the newer books, actually....
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Date: 2006-06-16 05:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-16 05:37 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-16 03:52 am (UTC)Oh! He could react to something in the water on a planet, and it makes him all paraniod. He thinks either they are all trying to kill him or that they all tured into Goa'ulds or something. Or he starts seeing everyone as Wraith.
He'll do everything and anything to make sure that his people and his city are protected.
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Date: 2006-06-16 04:57 am (UTC)Poor Rodney. *pets him*
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Date: 2006-06-16 08:56 am (UTC)I can see Zelenka making a move when the opportune moment arises......maybe it starts as a contest between the two, a contest of meglomanical proportions.....except Rodney when he puts his mind to it can be just as scary as Zelenka
one minute your sat there and bam the whole place is on lock down!
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Date: 2006-06-16 02:10 pm (UTC)i'll write this. i so will.
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Date: 2006-06-16 04:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-18 03:16 pm (UTC)Rodney vs. Atlantis
Date: 2006-06-19 10:54 pm (UTC)I would have Rodney hiding somewhere in the city controlling/guiding his teammates' movements (because I want something like John in The Storm/The Eye), maybe with them having to move him around, protecting him (but I want him to have at least one good physical scene because I loved him shooting the wraith in The Defiant Ones), and Teyla needs to use sticks to subdue people without permanent harm and Ronon can set his Big Gun to stun.
So, not exactly Rodney vs Atlatis but Team Sheppard vs. Atlantis, masterminded by Rodney and John in a weird but cool synchronicity.