Stargate Friday, not cheerful thoughts.

[luciazephyr]

Okay, one snippy note about SG-1 from me. And... um... hate to rain on the "LULZ, THAT WAS FUNNY" parade for SGA, but... I noticed something rather creepy.



SG-1 complaint: Okay, Mitchell, stop being such a bitch. Rodney was on his best behavior on the Odysessy and Mitchell was just so rude. WTF was with that? Was he jealous because Sam totally wanted to sex Rodney. Come on, it was OBVIOUS.? It was really annoying me and this was, for all intents and purposed, a good episode.

SGA dark thought: Okay. So. As I understand it, Rodney was forced under Luscy's spell by Ronon who was being controlled by Luscy himself. Does that seem a bit... um... I don't even know what I'm trying to say, but my mind keeps jumping to Koyla's torturing Rodney for info back in S1. It's really bugging me. I loved the episode, it was brill, but... that's just eating at me for how wrong it is. Not that everything Luscy did wasn't wrong, but this was especially bad for me.

Also.... did Lizzie shag Luscy? o.o

Gah, that's just creeping me out. Good eps, but... *shrugs*

-Luce

Comments

[fan-this.livejournal.com]

Yeah, actually that's what I liked. That is was funny and awesome but there was this weird sort of bad that made it awesome on a totally different level. I actually give them credit for giving it that other level, even if it wasn't necessarily meant to be there.

It was funny but creepy

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

It makes me wanna go to Dark Places with that ep. And I so would if Luscy was even remotely attractive. But.... ew.

Do you think Lizzie shagged him?

[fan-this.livejournal.com]

oh, god, I so hope not. My Stargate Girlfriend better not have.

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Dude, during SG-1? I was constantly trying to hand her scissors and anti-grease shampoo. UGH.

[delgaserasca.livejournal.com]

The Atlantis ep freaked me out on so many levels.

I thought the SG episode was amazing. I always think Rodney is a completely different character on that show, but I also think you're meant to respond to him as a Stargate, not an Atlantis viewer, which is f-up writing. That said: muchos kudos for that ep.

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

No, see, the way I keep thinking about it (and screaming about in the viewing chat)?

You are in Rodney's goddamn galaxy. You can be the top dogs in your own, but when you come to Pegasus? The people who've been living in Pegasus for two years now should have the control and power and knowledge.

*still a bit ticked about that* It is possible that I'm still bitter that the original McKay character (in his SG-1 stint) was pretty much created just to show off how beautiful and perfect and FTW Sam was.

And I have Sam hate, but she's not bugging me too much this season. o.o Weird.

[delgaserasca.livejournal.com]

Well, we won't enter a pissing contest over Sam because I've always loved the character when she wasn't taken to extremes (and I agree, that was Rodney's Purpose in SG-1).

But see...that's the thing. Rodney's character when transposed for a Stargate audience has a completely different function. It's not his place to be useful or respected, it's his thing to be ridiculed. That said, I do agree with people's confusion (well, okay, for most McKay fans it's more like outrage) over Mitchell because it's not like he knows Rodney, like, at all.

Whatever. I was too busy watching Elizabeth go crazy-happy over the Ancients and having a geekgasm at the etymology stuff. Also: I still think that the episode was really good. I like the way the plots came together. Stargate is much better when it's fighting on five sides.

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

I really, totally don't agree. I thought it was insulting to Rodney's character who has been, ya know, built up for two seasons. *sighs*

Let's agree to disagree, yeah?

[delgaserasca.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm not disagreeing on that point at all - it was insulting. But I'm saying it was insulting for a reason. Also, built up for two seasons on a different show. I don't think Rodney's treatment had anything to do with Atlantis fans which is why I repeat myself: shoddy writing.

But yes. In the parts where we disagree, agree :)

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Yeah, cause it obviously never occurred to the writers that people might watch both shows.

*bitchslaps the SG-1 writers* *sits in Gero's lap and purrs*

[kaaatie.livejournal.com]

I actually wondered whether Mitchell was jealous too! He was acting so "alpha-male" and it did seem as though he was trying to keep Rodney away from Sam on a few occasions. But yes, aside from Mitchell being a bitch, it was a good episode.

As for your SGA thoughts, yep, that's definitely wrong. Poor Rodney. I think he'll be developing some serious issues. *hugs my Rodney* We can't blame Ronon though, because he was under the spell too, but it does put a serious perspective on an otherwise fun episode...

[mecurtin.livejournal.com]

As I understand it, Rodney was forced under Luscy's spell by Ronon who was being controlled by Luscy himself. Does that seem a bit... um... I don't even know what I'm trying to say, but my mind keeps jumping to Koyla's torturing Rodney for info back in S1.

How does that tie into the implication that Rodney drugged Sheppard at the end?

Personally, I think TPTB really, really don't "get" consent.

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Um, it doesn't. I has nothing to do with that. At all. *blinks at you*

I actually missed that in the first viewing. But, of course, right after, I read a fic that explained that Rodney was trying to make John realize what it was like under the drugs influence, and (not for the first time) that fic made the episode tag okay for me.

Maybe the tag bugs you. The Rodney-being-forced thing bugs me more. Sorry.

[jolinar.livejournal.com]

I hope you don't mind me nosing my way in here. I was viewing _wwsd_'s picspam and saw you link this post. Just had to say that I agree with everything you said. Especially what you said in reply up above...

I thought it was insulting to Rodney's character who has been, ya know, built up for two seasons.
Very true. I'm just chalking it up to the writers trying too hard to get a laugh, unfortunately at Rodney's expense. Martin Gero, where art thou? Oh right, over on Atlantis...

And SGA dark thought? Very insightful. It did feel a little weird, and I wouldn't be surprised if Rodney were a little edgy around Ronon now. Although Ronon tends to point a gun at anything that he doesn't agree with, but still. No excuse!

[lucia-tanaka.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm not the only one in love with Gero. To me, the awesomeness of geekdom is as follows:

Joss > Hewlett > Gero > rest of world.

I doubt the TPTB realized the darkness of what they did. T.T So I doubt they'll have any tension.

Outside fic, that is.

[aurora]

Joss > Hewlett > Gero > rest of world.
Heeeeeee, that's awesome. I've been fangirling Gero for a while now. :D

The SGA ep certainly had its unsettling moments. They throw these one-liners out there, and we're left wondering what the frak happened.

I actually missed the whole Rodney-drugged-John thing on the first viewing, probably because I was too busy squeeing. It kinda left a bitter taste in my mouth. Same with the Ronon line.

[jolinar.livejournal.com]

I've been fangirling Gero for a while now
Yes and you don't realise how influential you are :P

probably because I was too busy squeeing
Of course you were darling, because Rodney was fangirling so by default we we're fangirling too.

[jolinar.livejournal.com]

Oh no, you are definitely not the only one :D

Hee! I love it your geekdom hierarchy. Hewlett and Gero are my geek heros. And Joss? He can do no wrong... ever.

It makes me wonder if TPTB will even know how much the fans are screaming over The Pegasus Project, let alone the creepiness of Irresistable. I'm fairly sure David and Martin lurk the forums sometimes from what I've heard on some commentaries. But the higher ups? Hmmmm...